Posts by Olin Moyles Ghost

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WTS, Faithful Slave or Evil Slave?

by mindmelda in

does the wts fit the description of the evil slave in jesus parable?.

i'd like to see everyone that cares to discuss that.

sometimes when i read that parable, it occurs to me that maybe it's the wts that better fits the description of the evil slave, the one who beat his brothers, abused them.

Olin Moyles Ghost

It's interesting that of the two slaves mentioned in the parable--only one of them is described as expecting the Master to return at a particular time. That would be the evil slave. Note that the parable describes the evil slave as feeling that the Master is delaying--after which he begins to beat his fellow slaves.

If the evil slave felt that the Master was delaying, then he expected him to already be there. Well, who expected Jesus to arrive in 1914, 1918, 1925, etc...? After Jesus failed to show up, has there been evidence of "beating" fellow slaves? I'll leave that up to you.

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Who Will Be the Watchtower's New "Boss"?

by metatron in

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whether thru incapacity or death, the days of jaracz's rule as unofficial "boss" of the watchtower are numbered.

who will emerge to take his place?

every body of elders i know has some guy who dominates the decisions made.

Olin Moyles Ghost

My guess is Loesch. But that's all it is--my guess. My reasoning is:

Aside from Barr, who is probably not long for this world, Loesch has the most seniority. He was appointed in 1994. That's five years before any of the others. That probably counts for something.
From comments on this board from others with more info than I, it sounds like Loesch has some unorthodox ideas. Wasn't he quoted by one of our Gilead grads as saying that a lot of doctrinal changes needed to be made? So, if Jaracz truly is incapacitated, then it would not surprise me if Loesch took this opportunity to try to increase his power and implement some of his new ideas.

Of course, it remains to be seen whether he can make this happen. But, during his 15 years on the body, perhaps he has had the chance to make some allies (but he has probably made enemies, too).

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Friday DC Releases

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

end of morning program, dvd video released: "the wonders of creation reveal god's glory".

end of afternoon program, announced upcoming release of a new songbook: "sing to jehovah".

excuse me while i go barf now.. b the x.

Olin Moyles Ghost

Regarding songbooks, I have a vague recollection that the 1984 songbook tweaked the wording of a few songs from its predecessor. In particular, a few old songs used the word "aids" and the 1984 songbook replaced that word with "helps." Am I remembering this correctly? I believe this was a result of the AIDS outbreak in the 1980s.

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Quick Questions For When A JW Knocks Your Door

by besty in

anybody like to contribute a few suggested questions - should be less that 12 words.. .

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Olin Moyles Ghost

Who was the FDS before Russell?

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Watchtower is kicking people out again, in the name of LOVE?

by Bethelite Elder in

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right now at bethel, they are laying off and reassigning again.

if you have cancer or some other illness, you are a liability and it's time to pack.

i remember the night when we had the special talk about there being a great need in the field and some would be sent out.

Olin Moyles Ghost

Thanks for the inside info, BE. The whole Bethel-downsizing issue is pretty big, and I don't think it's on the radar of a lot of the brothers and sisters.

Growing up as a JW, I always heard that if you went to Bethel, you were expected to treat it as your career. The implication was if you did a good job, then you were guaranteed a position--until you got married, of course.

But apparently, it isn't that way anymore. Not a lot of job security in Bethel Inc. I feel bad for these folks getting tossed out on their rear ends. It's tough to adjust from institutional life to the "real world"...and $600 per month won't go very far.

One more thing, BE: there is an undercurrent of racial inequity in your post. From your vantage point, does it appear that some racial groups (whites) are getting preferential treatment?

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Friday DC Releases

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

end of morning program, dvd video released: "the wonders of creation reveal god's glory".

end of afternoon program, announced upcoming release of a new songbook: "sing to jehovah".

excuse me while i go barf now.. b the x.

Olin Moyles Ghost

@Isaac: can you give us a synopsis of the new video? From the title, it sounds like an anti-evolution film. Is that the theme?

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Class action suit for pain, suffering & discrimination

by lettib74 in

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i am very interested in filing a class action law suit against the society for pain, suffering and outright discrimination.

i know that my situation is not unique one and i have several people who are interested in joining this suit.

i have contacted a lawyer in hopes to get the ball rolling.

Olin Moyles Ghost

Not sure what country you're in--you mentioned your Mexican family, so I assume you're in Mexico or the U.S. I can't speak for Mexico, but in the U.S., you will face an uphill battle.

The WT has a great record of defending itself against suits brought by victims of its disfellowshipping practice. U.S. courts of appeal have held that the WT practice of shunning is protected by the First Amendment. Of course, you should feel free to talk to a lawyer about the specifics of your case. My guess is that he won't have good news for you...but who knows?

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The TED Thread

by sweet pea in

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the antidote to brother ted's version of education........ www.ted.com.

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Olin Moyles Ghost

Here's one of my favorite TED talks. Completely obliterates the idea that we're living in The Last Days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ramBFRt1Uzk

Here is the essay on which the talk is based: http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/pinker07/pinker07_index.html

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2008 Generation Change

by cognac in

i don't pay to much attention to jw stuff and so i don't know what this change was.

can anybody inform me?.

Olin Moyles Ghost

Midwich Cuckoo: 1914 is still very important in JW theology. Like SirNose said, it's the year Jesus began ruling as king, and it's the beginning of "The Last Days." But it no longer has any direct connection to the timing of "The End."

Until 1995, JWs could comfortably say that there was a limited amount of time before The End--it had to come before everyone who saw the events of 1914 died. Since 1995, that is no longer the case.

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One of the Governing Body had a stroke yesterday

by AndersonsInfo in

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on may 19th, theodore jaracz had a stroke.

he's in very serious condition in the hospital.. that's all the information i have for now.. barb.

Olin Moyles Ghost

Barbara, thanks for your insider's insight. Your "fair and balanced" presentation lends weight to your position. It's good for all of us to remember that the WTS is a man-made organization--nothing more and nothing less. Just like any other man-made organization, such as General Electric, the Republican party, or the Boston Red Sox, it's neither all-good nor all-bad.

The organization includes good people who do good things. This doesn't excuse the harm that is done by the policies of the organization. But we do ourselves a disservice and damage our credibility when we fail to recognize that there are some good people in the org--even in positions of power.